The good thing is that you get a masters degree out of it. I feel like the same goes when a physician, you will be expected to just work. students, put it, A medical student in Cuba would have to actively resist the idea that they were agents of public health and social justice. What medical school did you apply for ? Saba, which makes up one of the regions big four, stirs up a lot of interest. Also was a straightforward 1 day exam ECFMG you needed to pass to be eligible for residency. I do not regret the fact that I met wonderful people, while being there. What I am trying to get across is that yes caribbean medical schools are tough. Additionally, if you have the study material for Step 1 and have learned it well, you will pass every class with more than a 70% aka a C. Furthermore, if you cannot score a 70% or better on NBME subject exams, how do you expect to score well on Step 1? But this is just my opinion. Or a plan B, C and D. Dont let one thing totally devastate you and put you on the edge. One (SJSM) is way cheaper than the other. There is CRAZY money in the Caribbean medical school racket! I had a 4.0 GPA for both my Psychology degrees and it was still hard to get into a good medical school. With recent COVID19, and with 1 confirmed positive case on the island, the school still tells students, young and healthy are less likely to get the virus so wash your hands frequently and stay calm. Circumstances will come; but you know yourself better. Ohio used to, but theyve just ended the program. If not you can contact me as I have information that you would benefit from. These Caribbean programs are fast-paced so if you miss a class, you miss a lot and its hard to catch up. Its easier to get in, has a great residency match and USMLE pass rate and is still a fair bit cheaper than your average U.S. school. Would you recommend that. MDs/DOs are in no way more important to the spectrum of healthcare than what advanced practice providers are. Some that are very close to making it out of there, but still need to face with taking the USMLE Step 1 exam, which I have heard of success and not so successful stories. Return from Saba Medical School to Caribbean Medical Schools Saba University School of Medicine is a fully accredited medical school. Ive heard so many disappointing stories from hard-working students, many of which participate in student government or other volunteer groups whose goal is to add value to SJSM and the students. You just have to put the hours in and learn it. These students usually pay 2 to 3 times more in tuition, so schools will typically allow them to apply and a certain number will get accepted further limiting available seats. Pros of the school: It certainly means you are a hard worker but I dont know how it measures smarts.. I also have a second home in Atlanta, so I would not have to pay for housing for rotations there. How much is Saba University School of Medicine? The alumni association periodically brings graduates from the US and/or Canada to the school to talk about tips for residency, how to adapt in our transition when we return to the USA for clinicals, and how to study for USMLE, among other topics. Think of ways to solve problems and be a good problem solver before you enter medicine and especially abroad in the Caribbean or anywhere where the culture is different. Why could they take my money each semester (which the schools loan company is after me for now) and they would not let me take my exam? A rest assured you will not last long as a purely patient advocate. I am very happy to be here in the Caribbean. Failed out It was hell, and they only cared about the money. The school apart from its fast-paced curriculum expected us all to fill serious gaps of knowledge and pass USMLEs. I imagine that you have now made this decision for yourself, and I imagine that the law of averages would suggest you did not finish at Saba, but maybe managed to transfer on from there. In 2017, there were over 45,000 applications for very few positions in Germany for example, with average Med School size around 300-350 and you needed a perfect GPA (Abitur / Matura / baccalaureat) plus entrance exams (TMS or HamNat for Germany) and be fluent in the native language of course. would stab you in the back with a unilateral attendance policy (too bad Why cant anybody find the true numbers of this school online? So building stress handling skills in medical schools whether you study in US, or the tough Caribbeans, which also are the awesome beauty, is plus. Furthermore, there are times where the law enforcement and other emergency response agencies are incompetent, prejudice, or straight up corrupt. Meet our administrative and academic teams, Semesters 6-10, rotations and clinical studies, Students are eligible for U.S. Federal and Canadian Provincial Loans, Small Class Sizes: Encouraging a uniquely close relationship between student and professor, with a student-to-faculty ratio of 7:1, Residency Placements: From 2019 to 2021 94% of eligible Saba graduates attained a residency, 100% USMLE Step 1 Exam first-time pass rate (2021), Distinguished Faculty: Saba faculty have exceptional qualifications, with an advanced degree or doctorate, Accreditation: Saba University School of Medicine is a fully accredited medical school. With the FMGEMS horror, and all the abuse, incoming classes went from 150 to 80, to 25 to 12 to ZERO in the span of a few years. Yes-they had mandatory attendance and a dress code. Most IMGs end up in primary care with huge debt. So why come here? The majority share holder to the school (Baring private equity) pumped 750million into the school a few years ago in order to expanding student resources, supporting our research and undergraduate programs, adding international capabilities, and enhancing our relationships with hospital and university partners. The only truth to this is the enhancing relationship with hospitals. And by relationships they mean the cycle of money to have sgu students go into their residency programs. All of that work for someone to tell you to just quit. I then went into a depression and felt numb. We were both premed/biochem majors from a top undergraduate university whose pass rate for prerequisites were 50%, so were used to being under a lot of what seems to be unfair stress. Sorry for the delayed reply Get out while you still can. Are you a future physician or not; and how are you going to get there? Hi please I really need help and direction I will appreciate if we can talk am a Nigerian too considering going to the medical school in carebbean,please contact me. Its also how your brain is going to force you to think, but if you end up on the island, learn not to dwell on too many thoughts, express them, write them, whatever you do with them, just study. Used to study questions pretest, Lange books, and work backwards onto notes. We also have visiting professors from the US medical schools that teach a good portion of our classes here, so most of the professors have not been all that bad. You pick yourself up, excellent Step scores, less medical errors than any other doctor; no explanation just do it. My friend and I both got 73% on our exams, they let her take Ck and didnt let me. As soon as you are a pre-med, the world will ask a lot from you and they will never stop asking you to be perfect. Programs like St. Georges University can be equally as expensive, with a price of $62,000 per year in just educational fees. Yes, it was hard to adjust to island life (especially the hurricanes!) Would you? SJSM is way cheaper than Ross, but Ross is amongst the top Carribean Med Schools. I thought THAT was Bad! Are students aware coming in what the situation is there? From above posts the attrition rate is high but many get the chance they couldnt get in their home country. Its worth a look. Do these schools give kickbacks to hospitals in the States so that their students get experience and jobs? Thank you so much. We have no shortage of doctors, only a shortage of residency residencys. Now the term is IMG. I do believe that a reasonably strong candidate should be able to get a DO spot as I know people who got in on the second and third application cycle. It isnt nearly so doom and gloom. He also did not like the fact that SABA or any other Caribbean students had to work harder and score higher on the USMLE than an American student (MD or DO) to get the same residency. First of all not everyone at a Caribbean medical school processes the appropriate academic competency to succeed. Hes a 3rd year med student, end of year and dude is clueless. Like finding out good studying strategies. I have made lifelong friends also. It made me so much more perceptive and empathetic to the pain and suffering of others. i do wish more schools in the caribbean had more integrity in the kind of students they admit. The worst thing that I could say is witnessing someone die young; and realizing how life is short. I bet you become a PA in USA Please educate yourself about this excellent profession first before undermining it. If you dont like dealing with problems that you are not used to, please the Caribbean is not for you. A teacher harassing you for not tying your hair back and wearing gloves (just to pretend ur in gross anatomy lab) will then remove the organs and put them back together for an hour while u watch in awe before (my fav part) standing in line to wash ur hands like you just scrubbed out of surgery in the same big metal sinks with faucet pedals lmao. I remember studying homeless in the park for the MCAT with a head flashlight on. Then there are times when I had to take a leave and not know if I will ever find my way back in after losing finances. the recent NRMP data showed horrible stats in the category of U.S. Citizen students/Grads of IMGs: 42.9% unmatched, compared to that of 18.3% unmatched of Osteopathic schools and 5.7% unmatched of Allopathic schools. However, never did get my license because I was unable to sit Part II of the USMLE before I graduated, because I lacked one more core. Extreme measures much? I spent a lot of time crying!! In the US and some countries they filter the applicants prior to entry. I did get the M.D. paupers graves. NY, Canada, etc) you can receive more. great to hear your testimony. Thanks for reading. I wouldnt take that risk when you have hundreds of thousands of dollars at stake. Does anyone see this as a call for help ? Why not go because, you will get accepted and graduate, but if you want to come back to the US you still have to pass the USMLE 1,2CK AND 2 CS to get certified and be eligible to find a job as an under paid intern. 1. If you want to be one of those few that make it to writing the USMLE and beyond, you need to be tough and have a great support system in place. I did clerkships in the US and a Fifth Pathway, and got a primary care career. Dont be afraid to cold call and explain your interests. A minimum 50 hours of direct patient care (volunteering, shadowing, working as an EMT, etc. Approach from day 1 to learn via doing questions and then learning backwards on the lecture material. The US Department of Educations foreign schools team in Washington was also fixated more on the finances as related to the country (as opposed to the finances as related to students citizens) or the standards of the academic institution. We have excellent professors, as we also have professors who are not the greatest (very few). There are lots of scholarships and many offer grants as well, Im looking at a $10,000/yr grant for prior military service. I do believe that these schools tend to operate in a business type way, but I am also very grateful that these schools exist to give people like me a chance! Yes! Its good to read all of them just in case you have a similar or positive experience if you do take the road abroad to the Caribbean. Saba Medical School is another of your options when you are considering Caribbean medical schools. So, why are so many students failing or dropping out? I went to their website and they do not mention this at all. USMLE pass rate: 97% I think what is missing is the transparency on the part of the schools. MAKE THEM! I am a term four medical student, ignoring everything else (I choose to), I will say getting sick was what got me the most. See, people lie, but numbers dont. Its a nightmare, I attended Noreste in Tampico in the early Eighties. Saba University School of Medicine is one of the world's leading international medical schools, with a 30-year history of educating outstanding doctors. Im just being honest with you, not meant to be mean, just honest. Communism. At the moment, I am considering matriculation to the American University of Antigua College of Medicine. I am hoping to enter the May 2018 Class. be in a small town or rural area. I prefer to go to the beach, go hiking, or to a resort after an exam, than going to a bar in NYC during the wintertime. Can retake the MCAT and reapply to med schools in the US, but that would push off my journey by two years. Our match rate was pretty good too last year at 91%, so unless you are failing classes left and right you will most likely match. And not only Americans and Canadians fall victim, people of all other nationalities do so too. I believe the wonderful weather and beaches around make our anxiety levels to go down. i am looking to apply to Ross, SABA and AUC. Stop going to Bananas to party. They originally had 4 exams scheduled for the students, then they changed it to 2 exams. Medicine is no longer a profession. Please Thanks. Hi Dr. Wible, Everyone has different experiences about their transition at Caribbean medical schools. My honest advice having having some experience with that route is to not do it because the outcomes are very unpredictable. 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