Amen. This is the spiritual fulfillment of the NC as Jesus did indeed fulfill the Torah. They even have remastered some of their teachings when believers present them with scripture and show them where they errored. Is Christ divided? In fact the entire book of Hebrews is Gods love to encourage Messsnic believers going thru persecution just prior to the destruction of the second Temple ..and Jerusalem! 18 And keep growing in grace and knowledge of our Lord and Deliverer, Yeshua the Messiah. Does any of you truly have room to judge when you are all adhering to beliefs that began not with Jesus and His Apostles, but 1500 years later by people who removed books from the Bible, dispensed with the sacraments Jesus established, and taught things that had never been allowed in the Church from New Testament times forward. Israel was the lost sheep the messiah came for, then he extended this to sheep we did not know of. If youre not familiar with this website, check out http://www.hebrew4christians.com and youll be blessed. After 30 years of my life, Ive seen and heard from Catholics, Baptist, Lutherans, Muslims, Agnostics, Buddhist, Jehovah Witnesses, and countless others. If you blink, youll miss the slight of hand. Now, as for the name HEBREW ROOTS MOVEMENT, another neat little package that we here in the west have assigned a name to. Because it will lead to This is where THEY are wrong. Bear a false testimony against your neighbor? Hmmm maybe the purpose of YHWHs Holy Spirit is to HELP us follow Gods Instructions. When I was a young man, another man owed me money and said he was ready to pay. Afterward we were laughing about it and commenting how we just loved it. To be frank I think you and Leah are more false teachers than 119 by your implied definition of what a false teacher is. Your own hand must be the first one on him in putting him to death, and afterwards the hands of all the people. Without it, how can we know what sin is? The real travesty is not being open to the Spirits direction regarding the Word and claiming a superior understanding of Scripture without properly or sufficiently citing scripture, Hebrew and Greek definitions, proper context, etc. Lisa, Chapter 3 is golden. THEN, they will all think what good little girls and boys we are because we love the Jews who were so badly treated. Jesus New Covenant blood is the blood of our Salvation dear Sister..Its Better, New and not like the covenant our Father made with Moses as Jesus blood cleanes all sin! As always, you have your crazy people in these movements, as there are some in all sects of some sort of religion. Now think about that for a bit. Spiritual pride is the hardest thing to detect . Those that condemn Hebrew Roots are yall as concerned about the Emergent church that is incorporating pagan and occultic practices (labyrinths, etc) into their worship of God (who said to never use pagan ways to worship Him) as you are about people trying to please God by sticking to Scripture only? We keep trying to interpret and end up twisting what they have said (written) to mean what we have told it means. This had even more stipulations regarding the Land but included what was previously given. Ive asked for a while & will continue. This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time,declares the Lord. Anyone not in one of the houses would also have a place in the house by binding themselves to HIM, in this way they become a sojourner. And I DO NOT observe the Tanakh in order to be saved, but because I am saved and I want to show the God of Israel how much I love him through my obedience. I do not believe the torah which Abraham obeyed and kept in Genesis 26:5 is the same unchanging torah written finally written for Moses. Many Hebrew Roots/Torah observant people actually do things in love. This whole discussion plus all the supporting arguments and followers of the likes of trustinJC are nothing more that another part of the HUGE end times deception. Now this has been taught for many decades but does scripture actually teach this or is this a doctrine of men? I believe the torah which Abraham obeyed was Gods unchanging moral instruction based on Gods unchanging character and specifically related to Gods Abrahamic covenant. Many Christians, who are utterly ignorant about my people or my culture, seem to enjoy jumping to unfounded or unsupported conclusions regarding the contents of the New Testament. But it wasnt translated from Hebrew, it was translated from Greek. And she desperately responds yes, but even the dogs get the crumbs that fall. A quick study will promptly show the Hebrew names for months are also intact example: Nissan/Aviv. The fact that you would proclaim all these to be true and box them all up nice and neat and call them the moral laws of God and leave it at that is what people like 119 ministries is trying to point out. Hence the problem of proving your point using that method. 32 It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, Jesus Himself IS our new covenant Torah as we walk in His Holy Spirit of grace!!! 1. to cause to abound, to furnish or supply liberally Obviously the oral system was not a sustainable solution, Then contact 119 ministries. I cannot say when I will get to your suggested read on Galations, but Ill work that way. All of Judaism and Christendom are historically patriarchal. Oh BTW Im not defending 119 or any other ministry, teacher, prophet or blogger as we are to make sure that was is taught conforms to the whole counsel of God. and His laws which is strongs H3384 torah meaning Gods direction and instructions that men follow. Sean was prepared and did a great job refuting the HRM. He backed Him up.. Peter ever stated that the letters of Paul were hard to understand and that many unlearned will twist it to their own destruction. His commandments which is strongs H6680 mitsvah meaning the instruction of how we love God & man. Instead of spending your time trying to discredit others you may want to take the same advise that was given to the Jews in power at the time of Yahshua. Leah, I believe my sister and mother have been hooked in by 119. Those are our choices. It was like we all could not believe how offensive we had been to our Father and we just wanted to flee from man-made religion and seek the Father, purely, according to His WORD. . Why is it whenever someone decides to reject the Christian traditions of men such as celebrating pagan holidays, Sunday worship, which is not and never has been the Sabbath, they are attacked and maligned by the traditional church. Im sorry that I sound arrogant & demeaning. I believe in order but I have seen an organism of love turn into an organism . a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing. I believe this to be literal and not just figurative in every way he lived. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness is far greater than that of the Torah-teachers (scribes) and Prushim (Pharisees), you will certainly not enter the Kingdom of Heaven! We've all heard that we're grafted in, but just what does that mean exactly? Remember, the Spirit of God (Ruach Elohim) moved upon the face of the waters (KJV). Apparently, the God you serve is very similar to the Muslim god Allah. Prior to Moses, the I also wholeheartedly agree with what you wrote when you said: They have frequently made it clear that salvation is a free gift offered through YHWHs grace and that following the Torah, the Law, is the natural response of a believer who has been saved by grace. Thank you for your comments. Sean, if you want something to think about, check out Lets Get Biblical by Tovia Singer. This 28 minute teaching gives great insigh. This tells me that youve never even considered the lexical data. Jesus was the highest demonstration of Gods grace, not the first appearance of it. What people dont realize is the fact that his Torah/law was given so we would know what sin is! The works of Abraham was not only circumcision, but in fact, the whole Torah. How come we see in the prophets where they speak about the new millennium and how there will still be daily sacrifices (BTW the sin sacrifice was completed by the Messiah but the others remain). No?well just what do you think it means to not be under the law? Its NOT JESUS H. CHRIST. Id also like to use your teachings as a reference on this counter to 119 Ministries that Im working on. Christ will have preeminence in all things (Col). After stating this I ask you a simple question if the Torah did not work (according to what you think that means) are followers of God Pre Cross saved? And for the record, many of the leaders or teachers in that movement are former Baptist and Pentecostal pastors (some leading Christian churches anywhere from 20-45 years) who found that church doctrine just didnt line up with Scripture in its original context. Here we see that after salvation that we are to DO righteousness which is obeying the commandments of God. But if you do? Therefore, the Law given on Mt. I pray with people quite often in the public square. and the Word was God. to overthrow My point was that the New Covenant was not specifically for them > that they had to become part of Israel to BE a part of the New Covenant / Bride of Christ. From their video "What is the Gospel, part 1 "The message in the instructions of Christ is also taught in the week of unleavened bread. God forbid the men you referenced enter into Islam instead of HR. Repent and confess your sins, then go and sin no more! Jesus couldnt even do that you know. -Matthew 5:48. In the end HaSatan will roam around the earth to see who he can devour. Praise these wonderful men for helping me get back to my plum line on my short narrow path. Thats it Test Everything. Opinions do not cost theology does not cost . Through the. The Christian mindset is all about love, and less action. Another research project for you if you are not afraid. Replacement Theology, Antisemitism and the blatant misinterpretation of the Scriptures are pushing the Protestant Church further and further into apostasy, which means that Yeshua the Messiah will return to earth a lot sooner than most people are expecting. Its needlessly HOSTILE. At this point, you may say, Well thats your opinion! and merely claim that this is a disagreement of conclusions. But I say, Yes, this is my opinion. 119 ministries sells stuff too so it seems hardly anyone is free from it it seems we just buy and sell . They try to walk as HE walked not as how people twist Pauls writings. Truth has always been in opposition to manmade doctrines, opinions, and mainly pride. Unfortunately, 119 Ministries uses the same techniques of deceit. Leah is right analysis, They destroy, Not build, like Jesus said Several scriptures what the Kingdom is like. As a former member of the U.S. military and several of its intelligence services, I can recognize their footprint a mile away. from the beginning. Not until all is fulfilled? I Have prayed about and read the Bible and find much Biblical support for what they are teaching. So he DOES give her the food from the children (the healing she begged for) and he DOES demonstrate he is on earth for all humanity, not just Jews. Cleansing the Bride for the Feast(David's notes in red)A faithful pastor friend for many years called me and asked my advice. I only found 119 ministries about a year or so AFTER the Holy Spirit lifted the veil off my eyes and they are RIGHT ON!!!! Simply put, we can not keep Gods commandments and laws without the sacrifice of Christ. Who was the spotless lamb. Just would like to see how you think. I understand your reluctance to read a book about Scripture written by a mere man, but I think God gave us wonderful minds to think and discern the truth and I cant find any errors in his logic. 19 So whoever disobeys the least of these mitzvot (commandments) and teaches others to do so will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. The JEWS however, (and I am NOT anti-Semitic in any sense) DID and still DO follow Kabbalah, Hassidism and many other distorted teachings. Reformed Baptist, Sanctified Pentecoatal, Redeemed Hebrew, Born again believer in the liberating power of the name of Jesus, Fearer or the Almighty one true God. After reading literally every single comment on this blog, I must say it has been very informative and each side of the debate is very spirited. Guess what they do when they fail? Dear Frank, Im not interested in debating about all of your heresies. teaching from 119 Ministries, but I want to test everything by the Word of God. Thanks for stopping by. The NC fulfills the promise to Moses and the priesthood for a perpetual priesthood through the spiritual line of the greater Mrelchizedik Priesthood! You search the scriptures because you think in them you have eternal life; and it is these that bear witness of me.? If a storm comes its the rules that keep the storm at bay. Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. (Revelation 3:9), We ARE Spiritual Israel, grafted into the Olive Tree and TOGETHER are the Body of Christ. Have you ever translated Saturday into Hebrew? Hebrews is also clear the New Covenant was already established with numerous references. Also by Jesus saying He came for the lost sheep, hes fulfilling the messianic prophecy you spoke of from Jeremiah. And the famous scripture in John 10: There are other words even found in the Greek manuscripts that could not be translated and only the Hebrew is given. He is prefacing the people with an important message I have not come to abolish the law and the prophets so lets consider the following option of Pleroo but to properly teach you or let me put it this way (me speaking) to fill up the holes in your understanding i.e. Without Christ one is lost without God.. To those who oppose 119 ministries, just let the word of God judges you, 2 Timothy 4:3-4New King James Version (NKJV). If God is going to judge us based on our sins, what kind of law book is He going to go by? Bless you. Christianity is profoundly about Jesus Christ!!!!! So why would God be accepting of a people who profess Jesus with their lips and then deny Him (Jesus/God) by how they live? First, though, begin walking in the grace you have been offered. All the nations will come to the mountain of the Lord. a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object. 3 All things came to be through him, They also have been a bit taken with HR / 119 ministries all of the feast ..making booths , etc. Making reference to himself Yeshua said that Gods word is truth. One huge thing I might note is that I believe 119 Ministries is a cult because it tears so many families apart. You should take a walk with me sometime. He pleads with God against Israel,3 ADONAI, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars, and Im the only one left, and now they want to kill me too![c] 4 But what is Gods answer to him? Answer. Leah and Everyone Afraid your ego will get in the way? Jesus Christ (Yashua, his Hebrew Name) and Yahweh are looking for a people, his elect, his saints, his bride to be that will Love him through keeping his commandments, statutes and charge. So it is true that we are not to be under the law, as long as that is not understood to And I have seen them change videos when they have been proven wrong and admit to changing them and why. Unlike other ministers of the Gospel that almost appear to be like ravenous wolves. I am HAPPY to be a little one and not a MEGA Preacher, IMPORTANT: Lot ESCAPED to a place called, Zoar which means: INSIGNIFICANT. If the Law is done away, we have no commandments. In an unbelievable twist, the teaching conveniently re-defines law (Greek word nomos) through meandering logic to mean the law of sin and death. Jesus is talking to his disciples here and has been talking before this versein fact heres what he just said in the same discourse beginning in Ch. Or dont you know what the Tanakh says about Eliyahu (Elijah)? It was a personal conviction by God and His word. Some say its lawful to do ABC and some say its not a law, but a tradition. It supported them, along with some of the sacrifices that were made. He also said the student is not greater than the teacher. (see the books of Isaiah and Jeremiah regarding idolatry) Think about all the crimes committed against my people in the name of a false Messiah who orders his followers to ignore what is written in Deuteronomy 13: 13 (12:32) Everything I am commanding you, you are to take care to do. The Gospel of the Kingdom will return but it is not going to convince the world until Satan is removed at the Millennium start. Pray! It has to be, otherwise we have all been deceived and Psalm 119 was not inspired by the Holy Spirit. What does YHVH mean in Joel 2:28, I will pour out my Spirit upon all flesh ? Jealous of violating the Torah command in Deuteronomy that says we are to reject anyone who speaks against the Torah as a false prophet? 39 But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop them; you might even find yourselves fighting God!. 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